MSR Hubba Tour 2 Leaks

Well, it’s been 15-months since I purchased the MSR Hubba Tour 2 tent, so I thought it was about time to write an updated review of the tent.

As I said in my previous post, I was excited to see the MSR Hubba Tour 2 and saw it as the long-awaited replacement for my old MSR Velo and immediately bought one in February 2017! But a replacement it certainly isn’t, it just doesn’t even come close! The tent doesn’t work!

MSR Hubba Tour 2 leaks
One of the leaks in the front vestibule

Now I’m not too sure whether MSR tested this tent out before releasing it, but if they had I’m sure that they would have worked out some of the major problems with the tent for themselves!

The main problems being, it leaks along the seams, the fly stretches too much then sags, and there’s not enough space between the fly and inner tent allowing them to make contact (no matter what you do) this then lets condensation drip in! And the fly screen is a waste of time!

After enjoying a few nights away in the new MSR Hubba Tour 2 without any problems I was enjoying the new tent, okay the material on the outer fly was pretty flimsy, and I needed to tighten it up a couple of times before settling in for the night! No matter how taught I thought I’d got the fly, as soon as the air temperature dropped and it got a bit damp the fly would sag then drip condensation! Maybe this was one of the tents un-doings having to tighten the fly so much?

Drip
With the inner tent touching the outer tent water then drips into the tent

And yes maybe there wasn’t enough room between the inner tent and outer tent and no matter what I did they always touched causing condensation to drip in!

Inside a tent
The inner tent touching the outer tent

But I was prepared to put up with these as I said I liked the layout of the tent and it suited me down to the ground.

But then the inevitable night came when it rained! No problem I’m in my new tent everything will be fine!

When the morning arrived, I noticed that there were one or two wet patches in the corners of the inner tent. There was also some water in the vestibule, but I decided to put these down to condensation, after all my tent was only a couple of months old and had only been out a handful of times there was no way it could be leaking, could it?

The next night it started to rain again, and I must admit that I was a little nervous about staying dry! I was right to be nervous the water was pouring in! Through the corners of the inner tent, from the toggles that attach the inner tent to the outer tent and from around the front vestibule! To say I wasn’t happy was an understatement, the new tent that I had waited years for was leaking like a sieve! And to top it all one of the of the inner tent attachments broke! I wasn’t happy!

Broken toggle
The broken toggle

After returning home from my trip, I wrote to MSR explaining the situation. The reply I got back was not what I’d expected! I was practically called a liar and told it must be condensation as nobody else has complained!

As you can imagine this immediately got my back up and felt that it was very bad customer service on MSR’s part! To be told I’m lying, especially after I’d sung the praises of the MSR Hubba Tour 2!

Rain drp in a tent
Rain dripping in from one of the toggles that attach the inner tent to the outer tent

Eventually, after a bit of communication MSR agreed that I should send the tent to them (at my expense) so they could test it.

After a few weeks, I got word back that yes the tent was faulty and they would replace it, but unfortunately, they didn’t have any in stock! I asked if I could have the old one back as a stop gap, but that had been thrown away!

My new tent eventually arrived a month later, but because of one thing and another, I never got to use it again until this year.

April 2018

Roll forward to this year (2018) and the start of the camping season and yes you’ve guessed it, on my first night out in the rain the new MSR leaked and even more than the old one! Although one good thing the inner tent seemed to stay dry this time! It was, however, leaking in the corners of the vestibule and this time above the vestibule door; it poured in through there!

Leaking tent
The leak around the main door
WHAT’S gone WRONG AT MSR

Whoever passed this tent off for general sale should be fired, was it not tested in the field first? (If you’ll pardon the pun) Apart from the water tightness issues and the inner tent touching the outer fly! There’s an issue with the fly screen on the main door! What purpose does that serve? Yes, it keeps fly’s from entering by the main door, but with no fly screen on the vents, it’s useless! Do these issues not get passed on to production? If they want to contact me, I’d be more than happy to help!

Does MSR not care about the quality of their equipment anymore? I’d already read one or two disparaging reports about the MSR Hubba Tour tent but chose to ignore them as I am such a big fan! But you can only push somebody so far!

Although my main problem with the MSR Hubba Tour 2 is that I want it to work, I don’t want it to fail! I think it’s layout and design are very good and ideally suited to cycle touring, but the reality of it all is that it doesn’t! And after defending the tent for the past 15-months, I feel I can no longer.

What has happened at MSR? Their equipment used to be solid, reliable and long lasting! Unfortunately, that doesn’t appear to be the case with the MSR Hubba Tour 2 tent!

MSR Hubba Tour 2 a brilliant tent as long as it doesn’t rain!

I have since received another replacement outer tent which like the previous ones still leaks! As of May 2018, I am currently awaiting another response from MSR.

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8 Replies to “MSR Hubba Tour 2 Leaks”

  1. I bought a hubba hubba. Took it on an 8 day alpine summer trip in Tasmania – first 2 nights were very wet. The first night a little water came in but I wasn’t sure where from. The second night we were on a wooden camping platform, so were not in pools of water, but it was pouring,. The footprint and floor were still wet on the outside from the night before when they went up. Well everywhere you put pressure on the floor water just oozed through. If you knelt you got wet knees, put your hand down and you got a wet hand and could see beads of water in your handprint. We managed to sort of camp on top of our down mats and stay fairly dry, but the bottom of the mats were soaked.
    Luckily the next day was dry and windy, and we got to a campsite early enough to spread everything out and get it dry.
    Have not used the tent since. Have lost confidence in it. Thinking of getting a hilleberg anjan. We have a Nallo and it has stood up to much worse. (Same for our old macpacs – Olympus an minaret.) But it is heavier than needed for summer trips.
    Trudi

    1. Hi Trudi, sounds like you’ve not had a good experience with the MSR Hubba Tour either!
      It’s so frustrating when away camping and the main piece of equipment required for a camping trip lets you down!
      I found I was spending every night hoping that it wouldn’t rain and not getting much sleep!
      Hilleberg is an excellent choice they make some good reliable tents, I’m thinking of getting the Staika!
      Sorry I’ve taken so long to get back to you, I’ve only just come out of hospital.
      Hope you find a better tent soon.
      Regards
      Garry

  2. Wow, Amazing. Thanks for the info. I was looking at the Hubba Hubba nx with the gear shed to go to South America … now not so long, so clear … the last thing I would want is that water would enter on a stormy night.

    1. Remember this is the Hubba Tour tent not the Hubba Hubba I’ve not tried that one out in the rain yet!
      Good luck with you’re trip to South America that’s on my radar to do at some point!

  3. What a shame coz it’s a lovely lay out. You deserve better than that, especially after a hard days ride.How many times could you return it before they got the message? It must be so depressing in a wet tent.

    1. You’re right it is a real shame, as it is such a good tent! All I want is for them to sort out all the issues! But I am beginning to wonder if they will or even want to!
      Being in a tent when it’s raining is pretty satisfying listening to the rain falling on the tent, but then when you discover a leak it all changes, all of a sudden your moving and packing away stuff in a bid to keep things dry and now all you want is the rain to stop!

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